Revenge Conversation

Here is the begining of a conversation I am having with a friend. I’m curious about y’alls thoughts on revenge.

My friend-

As I was asked about revenge I thought i’d put it to everyone and see what your opinions are?


From me first

What society young and old think about revenge…if you seek revenge you have a lot of controversial history and probably a good dose of primitive genes spurring you on!

Revenge is a logical fallacy by design the same as two wrongs make a right, this is an enthymeme, part of the argument is missing because it is assumed, in its modern sense, is an informally stated syllogism (a three-part deductive argument ).

Some still believe that the injury inflicted in revenge should be greater than the original one, as a punitive measure. Revenge has been a popular theme for art and culture throughout history as humans are continually fascinated by it. Many actually feel better after watching a revenge or vigilante movie without ever realising exactly what they are programming their brain to actually believe…I wish I had those balls! Some psychologists have found that the thwarted psychological expectation of revenge may lead to issues of victimhood.

An eye for an eye – At the root of the non-Biblical form of this principle is the belief that one of the purposes of the law is to provide equitable retaliation for an offended party. It defined and restricted the extent of retaliation

The Code of Hammurabi (also known as Codex Hammurabi) created 1760BC Babylon

(revenge) laws written in cuneiform (tablet) script. The text contains a list of crimes and their various punishments, as well as settlements for common disputes and guidelines for citizens’ conduct. The Code does not provide opportunity for explanation or excuses, though it does imply one’s right to present evidence. The stele (tablet) was openly displayed for all to see; thus, no man could plead ignorance of the law as an excuse. Scholars, however, presume that few people could read in that era, as literacy was primarily the domain of scribes.

Philosopher Martin Nussnaum has written: The primitive sense of the just—remarkably constant from several ancient cultures to modern institutions…—starts from the notion that a human life…is a vulnerable thing, a thing that can be invaded, wounded, violated by another’s act in many ways. For this penetration, the only remedy that seems appropriate is a counter invasion, equally deliberate, equally grave. And to right the balance truly, the retribution must be exactly, strictly proportional to the original encroachment.

So, you can get your revenge, take whatever punishment the law has decided fitting should you cross over the line into a criminal act and whilst in prison sit and stew over how you were still right all along or sit and ‘think’, which is why self recrimination is sweeter, about how you must be to blame as you attract exactly what you choose to experience in this life, (negative shadow feeds on yours and others misery) you are responsible for everything positive and negative you attract, finally, coming to what is an obvious conclusion, everything negative that happens to me is my own fault, I attracted it therefore in the future I will choose to live in the positive lane where revenge is an unecessary signpost?

Your thoughts now…?

Message me back and I’ll give you the updates asap!

Hope you are all having a great start to 2008!

Julles 🙂

my reply:
Well….. I think revenge is a futile attempt to right an old pain or suffering event and it is not a truly logical negative feeling- but a spiraling one. Someone does you wrong… you retaliate in revenge… they retaliate to your retaliation. It’s lose lose. You are hurt. Then you continue in that pain in a rush to cause equal, or equal plus 1 pain- You will still have the initial injury. So wasting your energy in revenge instead of focusing your energy on repairing your injury, you can not heal to the level you might could had you used better discipline and judgement.

I can’t help but think even if who ever you vent your revenge on will just keep the black snow ball of energy growing as they now see themselves as the injured party.

I’m not sure I believe that we draw the bad to us by our own energy any more than I think we are more likely to draw light and good by virtue of how we live- I think life is a trial and error. Live and learn scenario. Like a child learning about an open flame.

Revenge, while satisfying in my Wily Coyote fantasy of dropping my agitator tied to an anvil from a cliff into a patch of cactus 200 feet down in my mind gives me a certain feeling of power and satisfaction- the reality of forming actions with intention of hurting someone is soul sucking and makes me weary to even think about it as a plan of action.

Revenge is a dark source in my opinion- and without merit.

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